Ken Andersen

It’s time we heard from Ken himself. This interview took place two days after Chad was killed.

 

 

Did you notice how friendly the police were to Ken? With all the noise at the beginning and end of these tapes, I realized the cops are probably not telling the ones they are interviewing that they are being recorded. They never mention that or ask for permission. The police ask Ken the same question they asked Kenneth and Lisa Swedberg – “Who do you think may have done this?” Ken’s answer is the same as theirs, “I think someone in that house did this.” 

Ken’s account of his own timeline stays exactly the same throughout the investigation and the trial. His story never changes. He sounds calm and even helpful as he willingly seems to try and help them. He answers all their questions and doesn’t dodge any subject. If you are a resident of the White Earth community, I ask you to consider this. Do you really think that Ken Andersen got up on April 13, 2007, made several phone calls, walked 2 miles through muddy terrain, killed his best friend in cold blood, walked back carrying a rifle, and hid the rifle, all before 9am? Neither do I.

Curt Bevins

By now you have heard the police interview Leslie Fain, Al Baker, Kenneth Swedberg, and Lisa Swedberg. None of them think Ken Andersen had anything to do with Chad’s death. So, how did the police ever build a case against Ken? I will show you. I have several recordings of how they intimidated witnesses into saying Ken did it. This is a great example of how the cops tried and failed to get someone to say something that wasn’t true. This is Curt Bevins, Ken Andersen’s uncle. You will hear a dog barking for a while and also a diesel engine running, but the conversation is clear and understandable. 

 

Police “We have some information you may have had some conversation with Ken Andersen.”

Curt “About what?”

Police “About the homicide.”

Curt “We didn’t talk about that.”

Police “Have you talked to Mike LaDue?”

Curt “Not in years.”

Police “So, if I said you came over to Mike LaDue’s house and told him Ken had shot him (Chad), that would be a lie?”

Curt “Yes.”

They kept going at him for 20 minutes even after the veiled threats (you better tell the truth) and still would not lie for them. The Police pump him hard over and over, yet you never hear them come at Leslie Fain. Al Baker, Kenneth Swedberg, or Lisa Swedberg this way. Why?

Lisa Swedberg

After the police talked to Ken Swedberg, they called in Lisa, his wife.

 

This is a short interview, only 14 minutes and Lisa doesn’t seem to shed any new light on who may have murdered Chad. During the course of the interview, she sounds light-hearted and even flippant with her answers. Talking to the police right after her brother-in-law was murdered next door to her doesn’t seen to trouble her at all. Lisa definitely avoids talking about Leslie Fain, “we don’t see eye to eye”. She never explains what that means and the cops don’t ask. When asked by the cops what her gut instinct tells her, she repeats what her husband says, “someone in that house did it, Tommy Covington.” Each time someone mentions him, the police are quick to  add, “but he was on that bus”, as if to say there is no way he could have done it. I find that strange, very strange. The cops seem befuddled about what or who to talk to next. This, like the previous ones, never mentions the name – Ken Andersen.

 

 

Kenneth Swedberg

We now hear the words of Chad’s brother and neighbor. I think you will be surprised at what he said just hours after his brother was killed.

 

 

 

This is more of a text book police interview: What did you do today? Let us see your guns. Do you know anyone who wanted to harm Chad? They build a timeline for him and try to sort out the gaps. They just want to eliminate him by listing his guns. The cops actually kind of treat Ken as a suspect and make him even a little jumpy. They do not treat him with kid gloves. However, when he does tell them that Tommy Covington threatened to kill Chad at the same funeral of a young relative he had just slain, they cops seem to ignore him and just go on questioning him as if he told them about working with his bees. Are you kidding me? When the brother of a murdered citizen hands you a person on a silver platter and you do nothing except help that person with an alibi and ask him soft ball questions, well, that seems a little odd to me. What if he had said “Well, I think Ken Andersen did it,” would they have also ignored that? The police had every right to go and arrest Thomas Covington on first degree murder charges and I do believe he would have told you what happened to the late Chad Swedberg. 

Another strange fact is that the judge at Ken Andersen’s trial would not allow any references to Tommy Covington. Why? This might provide reasonable doubt in their case to convict Ken Andersen. If you were a juror and heard this, would have still voted to convict? If you were a juror on this trial, I think you know by now that you helped put an innocent man in prison.

Al Baker

For those who have read this blog and know Ken Andersen’s story, you already know who Al Baker is. For those who don’t, let me introduce him. Al is an older man who lives in the same area where the crime was committed and was a friend to both Ken and Chad. He was helping Chad with the maple syrup operation and was supposed to meet him there the morning Chad was killed. He was supposed to be at the maple syrup stand at 8 am, but for some reason he showed up after 10 am, after Chad was found dead. There is never given a verifiable explanation what he was doing or why that morning. Listen to him talk to the police. He sounds very nervous and tries very hard to blame Ken Andersen (Fud) for the murder, but offers no motive or evidence. The police never treat him as a suspect and are eager to weave his nervous ramblings into a now fractured timeline and theory. I will comment after you listen.

I guess if I had to describe this interview with one word, STRANGE, come to mind. He starts right off saying he has no idea who may have killed Chad and in the same breath he accuses “Fud” Ken Andersen, based on nothing more that trying to please the police. Leslie has just called him thinking he was mad at them, or Jessie, and claims they know something suspicious. He says he has been receiving blocked calls and threats, even at the funeral. None of this seems to steer the cops away from their theory now that has Ken Andersen as a suspect. They seem to be listening to him but they are not prone to seek out where these stories were pointing. Al’s memory seems as fuzzy as Leslie and has trouble recalling the events of the murder of a close friend just a week prior. He tells of strange behavior of Leslie just hours after the murder and gives no real insight to any possibility that Ken Andersen killed Chad Swedberg. I talked to Al Baker on the phone a few years ago and he steered me to talk about the mysteries of maple syrup making more than what he said at Ken’s trial. Al told me a tale that he now believes a number of people were involved in the murder. I have unanswered questions about his interview.

1. Why didn’t you go to the maple stand at 8 am like you had planned?

2. Where were you from 730 am to 10 am, and can anyone verify it?

3. Are you lying about what you really know about Chad’s murder and why?

4. Do you have any first hand knowledge that Ken Andersen had anything to do with Chad’s murder?

5 Why are you so reluctant now to talk about any of this?

 

 

 

Leslie Fain #2

 

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Here is another interview:

 

 

Here are my raw notes as I listened to them:

“this concept of time”           “all I remember is that wolf thing”

police are trying to create a timeline          unsure of how many times she called Chad

many long silences as she is either thinking of her answer or stumped

she says she knows the sequence of events but lets the police assign the times to what she is telling them

never once do they treat her with suspicion or as a suspect

the questions see to put pressure on her to come up with an answer, they do not come easy

she claims she heard Chad first went to Ken and Lisa Swedberg’s house before going to the maple stand and left their house at 845 am even though she heard shots before 813 am

the police help her out by saying she is confused and Chad was there the night before

okay, is she lying or telling the truth??????

she isn’t sure of much information

the police have already built a timeline by guessing from what very shaky people told them-how can they ever be sure?????

5,6,7 guns in the house-need to document and test them—–did they?????????????/

POLICE TALK IN MUFFLED TONES FOR A LONG TIME- WHO ARE THEY TALKING TO??? WHY DID THEY LEAVE THE RECORDING ON? THEY MAKE SURE THEY CAN NOT BE HEARD.

 

Check back next Monday for more…..

 

 

 

Leslie Fain

 

Here are some thoughts after listening to her interview. If you had read any or all of the material on this blog and still have any doubts that Ken Andersen did NOT shoot and kill Chad Swedberg, listening to these taped interviews should remove them. There is a large difference between what was said the day and the days after Chad was murdered. By the time of Ken’s trial the police had rehearsed these people into saying a much different narrative than what you will hear on these recordings. The main thing missing is any talk that Ken Andersen had any reason, opportunity, or inclination to have murdered his best friend. So, who did the crime? I really believe the one or ones who were involved are on these tapes.

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This interview took place on April 13, 2007, the same day her husband was killed. Yet, her voice sounds normal and quite a contrast to what they are discussing. Dan Bauman ask her questions about the events only hours before in the same day of things that would be hard to ever forget, yet she can not remember what time she got up that morning. Leslie tells them Chad was watching some show about wolves and didn’t want to stop. Her rather vague account gives the time Chad left the house to go to work at the maple stand at 8:30 am, even though later the police would tell us he had a standing appointment with Al Baker at 8 am. at the stand. She seems sure she heard two blasts from a gun she refers to as “shotgun blasts” several times. All the other witnesses simply calls them gun shots, so I have to wonder how well her discernment of the sounds different guns make to know it was from a shot-gun (it wasn’t).  She thought it might be someone shooting a bear at first and then began the many calls to Chad that were never answered. Remaining unconcerned as she chatted on the internet and got ready for work. Finally, she goes to check on her husband as his phone is still not answering, she hears dogs barking and a mysterious “rattling” may be from a person, and finds Chad laying on his back with his legs askew. She declares he seems to have dead for a while, and begins to think about calling 911, but decides against it. She says they wouldn’t know where she is and decides to call Chad’s brother, Ken. The police never checked to verify much of this story, such as the TV show or whether Chad’s phone did not have voicemail.

This entire interview last almost on hour and left me feeling odd from the huge holes in her story. Couple this interview with her writing a check to double their life insurance that same day, and you come away with the feeling this woman is not telling the whole story here. Reasonable doubt? You bet. Come back next Monday for another installment.

 

Under Blog Construction- New Things Coming Soon!

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In the next two weeks, this blog will be upgraded to have brand new challenges to the wrongful conviction of Ken Andersen. I will be sharing some new features as well. The NEW EVIDENCE that will appear is audio. For some time I have had many audio recordings that the police made interviewing anyone that had knowledge of the killing of one CHAD SWEDBERG. The tapes were poor and hard to hear and understand completely. I even thought the police may have purposely made them so badly they were of no use. Lately, I have found software to enhance the sound and quality to where they are clear and loud. I have over 40 different tapes and will upload ALL of them in the coming weeks. You will be able to hear what was actually said by those closest to Chad and the questions the police investigators asked. Much of these conversation never made it into the courtroom. What will become evident is that KEN ANDERSEN was not a suspect until the police became frustrated with failure to make an arrest, and then manufactured a theory to railroad him. You can hear their actual voices and the journey they were on. Come back soon!

Ken Andersen Says “Thanks To All OF You!”

Last night, March 24, I got to talk to Ken on the phone. After his recent loss of the appeal, I wondered how he would sound and what I might say that wouldn’t sound stupid or some meaningless cliché. Ken sounded strong and very good. He knows that he is innocent and one of the things that give him hope is all of you. He asked me to say thanks for all of you for your prayers and support. It really makes a difference. If you have recently written him and he has not responded, Ken asked me to let you know he is going through a process of trying to gather his thoughts and new ideas and will write you soon.

We talked about new ideas and there are more venues, such as Federal Court for him to ask for help. Minnesota Courts have become a rubber stamp for the local courts and almost NEVER grant an appeal. They don’t look at anything but what the prosecutors have said and have no intention of saying the system makes mistakes. Even when confronted with these mistakes, these judges ignore anything that contradicts these courts. Because of this cancerous stand, Minnesota has become a huge bastion of wrongful convictions that have little hope of being corrected. Why has the legal system in this wonderful state chosen to be on the wrong side of so many cases. I have no answer.

Ken Andersen deserves our help and we need to continue to fight. There are things beginning to surface now that I will be able to tell you about soon. I would add that I believe the tribal leaders for the White Earth People need to take a hard look at the police they hire. Your people have been screwed long enough without you aiding more. I ask the tribe to get involved with Ken’s case and use your influence and compassion to help one of your own.